Quick and precise order and delivery. These are pretty for a long gloomy winter in Toronto. Im a huge fan of Uggs ever since it came out in the 8O's in America and not made it's way to Toronto in 2000. Ive only used Uggs as my go to boots next to Artica - all generation i' ved owned. Thought I would try the patent leather this time around - and as my previous experience with patent leather they are usually stiff so, I did go 1/2 a size as many suggested and yes you def need to go either 1/2 or even a full size up especially if you like to wear thicker socks over the winter. These will not strech as much as the reg leather since it's patent. I only wear thin socks with Uggs cuz they always keep me warm enough with waterproof membrane and sheep inner lining. Plus make note as expected you will experience wrinkling on the leather especially the folding part of the upper boots. It's it due to the patent...quite stiff - prolly need to treat them more often than my regular leather. Also, these are 3rd generation which newer models don't come with the vibrant sole. I have both style and types and both work well as far as grip on icy, snowy and wet road in Toronto. I hope this helps you with your purchase. Yah, def 1/2 size up or full size, it will wrinkle but the rest of the good stuff with Uggs is a +++....worth every penny...